$32.95 . 8N - Hydraulic Lift - Troubleshooting, by Zane Sherman . You must log in or register to reply here. Nov 11, 2020 / 3 Point Lift Lever "stop?" #9 Tinhack Support the lower links near the raised position, and place the hydraulic touch control lever at the top of the quadrant. I've seen a 1200-pound round bale on a 3-point bale spike on the back of an 8N, but he also had a loader bucket on the front to help balance the weight. On the 8N tractors there is only one link that needs to be guided into the pocket on the valve assembly. The position control pin and the control arm were both bent. "text": "I have cleaned, rebuilt and reinstalled my hydraulic pump. Condensation. I just replied to another response to my post, with a pic and a question. How does water get inside the sump? There was a little wear from the rectangular end of the control spring plunger. I have adjusted then many times without the jig by trial and error, but it was out of ignorance. How to Remove and Rebuild a Ford 8N Hydraulic Pump Carving A Path 65K views 2 years ago Ford 2N 9N Tractor Position Control kirk -NJ 40K views 4 years ago Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us. Movement of the control valve arm should begin at the start of movement of the hydraulic touch control lever. After yesterday I don't have a clue how I could get the ram arm out. Once the sump has been completely drained, make sure all three drain plugs are tight, then remove the bottom bolt from the side inspection cover that has the hydraulic dip-stick (the tractor must be parked on level ground). How did you adjust the draft and position control mechanism? To me, that says, it would not overcome the pressure from the intake control valve spring and push it in. With about 800 pounds on the lift arms, the front tires start to come off the ground. May be where I end up depending on what Zane says. Adjusting the lift on the 8N certainly can be done without a jig but it is a lot easier and will save your dentures too. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Free shipping . If it won't go easy, stop and figure out why. I also removed the lift cover and checked and adjusted the constant draft and position cont Welcome! Also, the draft sensing spring seat can be deformed by the implement bouncing up and down during transport over rough terrain. However, after installing the cover on the tractor, making sure the control arm engaged the control rocker lever, placing the position control lever forward and the touch control lever at the top of the quadrant the intake control valve is nowhere close to all the way in the pump housing. Not sure if you saw the pic of the crack in my lift arm ram. Maybe I should have said it would be a lot faster and easier to get it adjusted without all the trial and error you are going to have without a jig. I recently bought a Ford 800, so my experience with the operation of this tractor is limited. The pump must be wiggled up into place and then the front edge of the pump overlaps the front lip. Is the something else I should change to get the valve to completely open? It goes in the lower front pivot bolster and looks like this. Have a friend with a MIG welder but Zane advised 7018 stick welding, which I'm sure I could get done in town. Any comments would be welcome. John Thanks for the suggestion. If the oil looks milky, its got water in it. Thanks to John Smith of Old Ford Tractor for allowing us to use this information. Looking for some advise on an issue with Ford 800. Plate was about 1/32 concave on one edge. Any water in there will almost immediately start running. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", I'll hold off on that and try without first. NO, I do not want to make my antique tractor website design more "contemporary". There is only one filler cap located on top near the gear shift lever. { "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=958809", The pump piston pushes the oil out then pulls it back in as it returns. I do see it is bent as well. Simple. (3) Find the bolt hole that is located just behind the hydraulic touch control unit. Where are they and what do they look like? It just ain't possible to adjust the lift linkage on the 8N Ford unless you have a jig to use so that the end of the control rod ends up in the right position. First of all, this the 3rd 8N I've owned since '96. It appears you have just learned this to be true! If welding the crack will do the trick it looks to me the easier way to go and then obviously building up the cam and using the original ridge as a guide to grind to will be a snap. Then, wet some rags & stuff them in the cover to catch the shavings when you grind it back down. ditto that. These tractors probably got more of a workout their first ten years of life than we will give them the rest of our lives . Welding is on the long list of things I know nothing about. 2009-10-02 166108. I replaced the pin, but still need to order Zane's jig to properly adjust. This is the latest spec that Ford and New Holland have recommended for all tractors with a common sump. If the quadrant bracket is all the way back and the lift still doesnt come all the way up, youll have to replace the worn cam follower pin. Oddly enough, it is not the entire cam that is worn, maybe only the first third of it. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" I also checked the length of the constant draft control spring, and adjusted the position control spring to the specified 1 29/32 inches. If someone has substituted bolts where there should be pins, replace them with the correct hardware. 2023 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. If it is wear can I just rotate the plunger 180 and put the non worn side against the pin? All N-Series Tractors - Ford-Ferguson 9N, 2N, and Ford 8N. Once I get the lift arm ram welded I will proceed with the jig. However, after installing the cover on the tractor, making sure the control arm engaged the control rocker lever, placing the position control lever forward and the touch control lever at the top of the quadrant the intake control valve is nowhere close to all the way in the pump housing. Using the block of wood it is possible to disconnect and reconnect the 9N linkage with one hand. When it breaks free and starts working again, CHANGE THE OIL. Have a fairly heavy weight or load on the lift arms. Happy New Year! Flattened it no problem. If the relief valve is leaking you will see the oil bubbling up from the pump area. I would cut a big V into the crack and weld it with a 7018 rod. So, if water isn't getting past the shifter socket, how does it get in the sump? Welding is my call? The valve should be completely open when the hydraulic touch control lever is at the top of the quadrant. and if it looks like the pic, it will need to be repaired. It appears you have just learned this to be true! Do you see that as well or just my original post and your responses? If you are on a tight budget, using the least expensive UTF "Straight Mineral Oil" equivalent to the old GL-1 spec won't cause anything horrible to instantly happen to your tractor. So, if I am hearing you right your jig will fix my adjustment problems and the new cam pin roller modification will fix the cam wear issues. I have a leak in my oil tube (9n567). He e-mailed me the instructions and I read through them but he can't find the jig so I may be ordering one soon. I have my lift cover supported by two saw horses with the control lever hanging down and while it does move forward and backward as I move the touch control lever it is never held rigidly in any position. Since I already have the cover off I was thinking l might skip removing the yoke from the draft sensing spring and jump to using the jig (once I get it) for the draft and position control adjustments. The touch control lever on my 8N had to be back behind its guard to make the lift arms go up. All Tradenames and Trademarks referred to on these web pages are the property of their respective trademark holders. When the pump is new you get a slight knocking as the lift reaches the set height. It is critical. If the control rod is bent, remove it & straighten it. Contact Us 3 - Is it below freezing now? "image": { and if it looks like the pic, it will need to be repaired. }, Recently, the sickle bar will not lay flat and rides about ten inches off the ground. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", He ships the jig with documentation that has helpful hints about things to check that the manual doesn't talk about that'd keep one from getting the proper adjustment. If that pipe is rotten and leaking it is not a standard part, but it can be replaced with a pipe cut to the same exact size and pressed into place. This could be severe leakage at the cylinder, a bad relief valve, or a badly worn pump. I'll send an e-mail to your site. "height": 57 Now, multiply that by however many iced tea glasses it would take to equal the surface area of metal that is inside the tractor sump. If you plan to flush it anyway, drain the plugs in any order you want. In cold climates the water can freeze and break the chambers in the pump. I am new to mechanical work and really want to learn. My lift only comes up half way then stops.. JavaScript is disabled. Another question if I may. Yes. }, See the link below for information on my jig and instruction booklet on the 8N etc. Thus, I removed the hydraulic control unit to adjust it Welcome! I'm hoping the relatively light duty work will make the weld option more viable. The control valve spools in the pump base can leak due to scoring in the bores but this is rare and generally not repairable except by a major pump rebuild. How's this procedure Zane? I just replied to another response to my post, with a pic and a question. Should the cam be smooth across its width? Serial Number Lookup I guess I wasn't clear how futile my effort was to get the lift arm ram off. Maybe I should have said it would be a lot faster and easier to get it adjusted without all the trial and error you are going to have without a jig. A premium full-synthetic that says it "MEETS" NH-410B (M2C-134D) is going to be the most expensive option, but it is also going to be the best all-season fluid and lubricant. Then, wet some rags & stuff them in the cover to catch the shavings when you grind it back down. Be sure to have a good welder do it. We keep the brush down in the woods. And the control rod must be perfectly straight. Go just a little too far and you will get several gallons of fluid in the face or running down your arm as you frantically try to thread the plug back in. I did take a look at it before I put it back together. Can't remember if bent toward the front, back, or sideways. Your email address will not be published. Enough to cause the lift issues? This post was edited by jasmith503 at 16:49:31 06/09/15. Make an honest estimate of the hours your tractor is used each week. Should the cam be smooth across its width? Make sure the rod is connected and that it is moving the control valve spools in and out as you move the lift control lever up and down. Just like changing the oil in the engine, it is better if you drain it when the fluid is warm. Tractor Identification & History, About F/FCA Not sure if you saw the pic of the crack in my lift arm ram. When changing the fluid, try to flush as much of the sludge as possible out with the old fluid. Look for places where the gaskets may have blown out. If necessary, make a new mark that corresponds to the correct level. Come to think of it that might have been a little too profound a remark! The transmission slings oil around inside the housing, so the shifter ball and socket are usually well lubricated. Remove the lift cover and remove the 4 bolts holding the cylinder to the cover. The PTO shaft should spin when you release the clutch. Epoxy? https://www.steinertractor.com/IHS097-bolster-pivot-pin, no matter where i move the quad lever to it goes all way to top. Start the tractor, press the clutch, make sure the PTO is engaged. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see OK,OK step one first. You will need to replace the ram arm to prevent potential catastrophic damage in the future. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", I couldn't even get the lift arm off of the end of the splined shaft. It will only raise the plow with touch all the way up. Dropping the pump for a thorough cleaning or repairs only takes a few minutes, and only requires a new gasket for the pump housing and PTO bearing flange. Any moisture we can drain off this way will not be in there to mix with the fluid when it warms up. He ships the jig with documentation that has helpful hints about things to check that the manual doesn't talk about that'd keep one from getting the proper adjustment. While I was working on the hydraulic system, I decided I would make a seperate short video detailing the hydraulic lift cover linkage adjustment So, you guilted me into starting with step one. Measuring parts just won't cut it when all the parts are not still the same shape and measurement that they were when new about 50 years ago. Do you see that as well or just my original post and your responses? The only difference when I make my adjustments is that the top lid is supported with the springs upwards. I did take a look at it before I put it back together. Any comments would be welcome. Pressing or driving a common .3125 pin into the .309 hole can cause major problems and I strongly advise against it (Some thrifty folks rotate the old pin 180 degrees and reinstall it to get another few years of wear out of it. Do you see that as well or just my original post and your responses? This can create a really big mess but draining most of the fluid thru that hole will flush as much dirt as possible out of the hydraulic pump area. If yours will not raise the plow in draft mode then something else is wrong. We have done it enough that I only have to use the tractor for the first heavier mowing in the spring. After starting the lift arms go all the way up and will not come down. It is critical. How did you adjust the draft and position control mechanism? I replaced the position control pin, and straightened the control arm. The most important plug is the one at the pump. Little heat and came off pretty easily. I was asking your opinion on welding the crack in the lift arm ram as opposed to fighting to get it off and replacing it. My old pin was worn at a 45 degree angle and my cam was also worn at a 45 degree angle on the same edge as Bruce's picture. Learn how your comment data is processed. "width": 200, We keep the brush down in the woods. Welding certainly sounds easier if it will do the job. In this case the NAA seal will work better, but only for a short time. Took the yoke off the draft sensing spring. Then, if you have a jig, adjust the linkage to specs. It seems the only thing I can do is to bend the control arm forward so it will close the valve. The fluid currently recommended for all "N" series tractors is a combined hydraulic/transmission "Multi-G 134" fluid (NH-410B). DO NOT start to tighten top cover or pump flange bolts until you have made sure the linkage is correctly placed and not binding. It helps to have something like a block of wood under an elbow or a floor jack to help hold the pump when it does not go in perfectly on the first try. WRONG! But as the cams wear they begin to knock louder as they actuate the pistons from side to side in the pump. Thought it might be an oil pressure issue. Here is the pic. Thanks for te help. May be where I end up depending on what Zane says. "logo": { If no oil is spraying out anywhere, you could have a bad pump. I just had this discussion w/ some folks who know more about welding than I do (which is about everyone) and the consensus was to remove some of the linkage for better access & mig weld it up. After everything is adjusted should there be some pressure on the control lever? While you are looking for leaks, you should see some indication that fluid is being sucked into the pump from the sump. Remove those and the shaft pulls straight out the back. The rest of that space is air and metal. Make sure the oil level isnt low. This is accomplished by tightening or loosening the nut on the end of the hydraulic touch control lever shaft (fig. Come to think of it that might have been a little too profound a remark! Luckily the tractor gets little work. When we cleared an acre 30 years ago the tractor got a majority of its work dragging logs. It will only raise the plow with touch all the way up. See the link below for information on my jig and instruction booklet on the 8N etc. Membership Quality Aftermarket 2N516A, 2N516A2 Hydraulic Lift Lever Control Friction Plate -Fits Ford TractorFits: 9N, 2N, 8N, Jubilee, NAA, 501, 600, 601, 800, 801, 900, 901 . Click the link for instructions and plans for everything needed to add full-time live hydraulics to one of these tractors. The crack has nothing to do with the lift performance at this time. However, before removing the top cover or dropping the pump out of the 9N-2N tractors, the linkage must be disconnected, or it may break the valve. (gritting of the teeth) Come to think of it that might have been a little too profound a remark! Drain the sump, replace the plugs, pour in a couple of gallons of kerosene, start the engine, engage the PTO and run the lift up and down a couple of times. Crack a drain plug and turn it out about half a turn. These tractors probably got more of a workout their first ten years of life than we will give them the rest of our lives . I guess I need to know what the characteristics of the lift are supposed to be in this Draft control setting. Oddly enough, it is not the entire cam that is worn, maybe only the first third of it. "name": "Jasmith503" You can remove the piston fron the cylinder by applying a little compressed air to the oil inlet hole in the cylinder. "@type": "WebPage", It should be straight. A rebuild is probably in order. Draining water as it collects in the sumps can help to extend the fluid change interval, but fluid does not last forever. Get the adjusting jig from Zane. Thanks for te help. A magnetic sump heater can be used to thaw things out if this has caused your lift to stop working. "logo": { My guess is that someone used a pin that was too short & too hard. Am I missing something? Or do I need to move it to "position Control" to transport my plow? I just replied to another response to my post, with a pic and a question. Here are some suggestions to get you started fixing your tractor. Thanks for you help!! Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Zane, Thanks for the info. Do not unscrew the plugs to try and get water to flow faster. LeRoy, my 1951 8n had not been started for 4 years. Dec 17, 2013. rmissildine said: Hello all. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", ", "headline":"Hydraulic control unit adjustment question. I have a friend that has your jig (or, I should say purchased one). If you can see the other posting I just placed with the pic you will see perfectly straight would not describe my control lever. To find this position, slightly loosen the four cap screws that support the quadrant. May have nothing to do with my issues but seems dumb to leave it like that. If it seems like your hydraulics just arent doing anything, be sure to check that the PTO lever is engaged and then try. Do you see that as well or just my original post and your responses? Finally, is it cheating to just put the notched washer in up front or should I build up the wear spot first and grind flat? When having a 5' foot bush hog connected to the 3 pt arms, the lift height is maybe 3" to 4" max. Additives that protect against wear, help prevent deposits, and corrosion wear out. I would cut a big V into the crack and weld it with a 7018 rod. Did you find a way to fix this. I can add very little to that procedure. I had a similar, though much less serious, crack in the ram arm on my 55 860. (b) Operation of Valve. This post was edited by jasmith503 at 16:49:31 06/09/15. If no major leakage is noted, then check the pump pressure as outlined in the FO-4 manual. The fluid we find in most of these tractors is often sadly neglected. The only things I can add is that it helps to have two people. Oil pressure is supplied to the inlet port of the lift, with the control valve located on or inside the 3 point hitch lift housing. (2) Put the position control lever in the forward or draft position. Now it is only used about 10 Hours a year. What do you think? I'm a little confused on the weld issue. "@type": "ImageObject", When I raise the lift quadrant, the arms don't move until the lever is nearly . Again, thank you for the help. Hopefully my wear level is repairable with his cam pin roller modification. It usually takes 4-1/2 to 4-3/4 gallons not 5 as stated in the owner's manual. How did you adjust the draft and position control mechanism? }. "height": 57 Hold the hydraulic touch control lever at the top of the quadrant and gently tap the quadrant support plate forward or backward until both of the above requirements are fulfilled. "dateModified": "2015-06-09", It is bent forward which I thought would help if anything, wrong? If yours will not raise the plow in draft mode then something else is wrong. Zane I would cut a big V into the crack and weld it with a 7018 rod. Chances are, you will find that the valve pivot is stuck and not moving. I replaced the pin, but still need to order Zane's jig to properly adjust. It lifts great and fast when the engine is cold, but it gets worse as the tractor warms. (800) 853-2651Shop Now TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere From the Operator's Manual: (6) Install the hydraulic unit on the tractor as outlined in section 382, but do not install the inspection plate. Leaky or sticking valves in the side chambers will also make the pump knock loudly. Still, that is just native grass and weeds. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Thanks. Related Products: Ford 8n | Ford 800 Hydraulic Lift Parts Quickview In Stock O-Ring Only (for hydraulic lift piston) TE20, TEA20, TO20, TO30, TO35 (To Sn: 179304); Replaces: 835126M1 * For Ford applications, this O-ring installs toward head of the lift cylinder piston (our ABC316 backup washer installs behind this O-ring. Officers and Directors My lift went up but now it wont go down.. Should the cam be smooth across its width? Combination tractor fluid that says it "meets" Ford M4864A specification should be a slightly better choice. I have pulled the pump and cleaned the pump cavity. }, Not like position control mode where partial movement of the touch control partially raises the arms. May be where I end up depending on what Zane says. of the hydraulic touch control lever and lift arms to be sure they were not moved while making the adjustments. I.E., I can grab it and move it freely front to back. (6) Install the hydraulic unit on the tractor as outlined in section 382, but do not install the inspection plate. Little heat and came off pretty easily. I did take a look at it before I put it back together. We had one in the shop but I didn't have a clue what it was for until I attended the training session on the lift. Figured that out after I sent the last message. Welding is on the long list of things I know nothing about. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I was wondering if someone had bent it intentionally as a fix . Another question if I may. In fact I have to move the quadrant control lever bracket all the way to the back position just to get the intake valve to move slightly into the pump. There are four bolts around the PTO bearing flange. "interactionStatistic": { The reason we don't trust the marks on the dipstick is that the original dip sticks were easily broken and may have been replaced with one from almost anything. Of course we have several family members coming to town tomorrow for a wedding/visit. "@type": "ImageObject", Epoxy? The only way arms go up is to hold draft control lever down. Get to the tough questions and you go all shy on me? Replace with the correct hardened dowel pin part number 374072S from Ford/New Holland. I do see it is bent as well. I have the same problem. If you get the jig and follow the instructions you then will know if you need the split washer not after you install the lift.. Looking at the condition of the fluid when checking the level can help indicate when the fluid should be changed. Raise the lift control lever and watch inside the cavity for oil spraying out in the area of the relief valve or from the side of the cavity where the tube is located. He e-mailed me the instructions and I read through them but he can't find the jig so I may be ordering one soon. Pivot pins was mentioned. Measuring parts just won't cut it when all the parts are not still the same shape and measurement that they were when new about 50 years ago. Bending the control arm is a lazy man's fix for a worn cam follower pin. Maybe not true. "mainEntityOfPage": { }, And the control rod must be perfectly straight. "@type": "WebPage", If you don't have tools to straighten what is bent, new parts are available. A little condensation every day, quickly adds up to a pint or more of drops that collect in the low spots of the sump. Never plow, etc. You've done it, I haven't. I can remove the cover and post a pic if it will help. Other possibilities are a defective relief valve or a ruptured oil tube that goes from the pump base to the top cover. Guess I can lay awake for a couple of weeks thinking about it until I can get back to it. Is my problem in the relief valve? Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Just beat it flat that's all you need to do Do you have the lift cover off if so wait for the jig you may not need the washer trickBut if you do you may have to get different thickness washers I have found you can move the draft plunger in to far by using a washer that's to thick All in said and done preform the first step adjust the draft control as Zane instructed the rest will fall into place Life will be good welding is your call welding is your call Welding is my call? Before replacing the top cover, take the time to inspect everything else in there for wear or other problems. There are two piston assemblies that should move at the same time, and in opposite directions. May have nothing to do with my issues but seems dumb to leave it like that. Never force anything! It is critical. I cant seem to find if this is one solid tube? Dean It must be straight. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-04SJ2KTSCK',{ cookie_flags: 'max-age=7200;secure;samesite=none' }); Welcome! Here is the pic. Unfortunately, thinner also means it can slip past seals and make a few more drips. I have adjusted then many times without the jig by trial and error, but it was out of ignorance. Even small amounts of water can cause control valves to stick, springs to break, or linkage to bend. These rings are still available, inexpensive and will work just fine, but a small amount of leakdown is normal and is to be expected with them. That adjustment would work on a lift that was prestine but it ain't! The cam follower pin looks perfectly cylindrical. I mite as well add my opinion in on the rocker ware Welding is my call? Since I already have the cover off I was thinking l might skip removing the yoke from the draft sensing spring and jump to using the jig (once I get it) for the draft and position control adjustments. Your email address will not be published. How's this procedure Zane? Get the adjusting jig from Zane. Be sure to have a good welder do it. The fluid level in the transmission/hydraulic sump is way less than half full. It may not have been changed in many years. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for HYDRAULIC TRANSPORT VALVE LOCK FIT FOR MASSEY TAFE ALL MODEL TRACTORS at the best online prices at eBay! At the time I had an extra top cover and just installed that on his machine and all was well. After yesterday I don't have a clue how I could get the ram arm out. 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